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21 hours ago, CompFreak(OD) said:

I must have missed the concept you proposed? Instead of trying to find fault with others' ideas and "breaking each other down", I'd like to hear what idea you would like to teach everyone!

 

At the moment, the concept of discussion.

Now don't go giving me the whole "stop picking on us!" line, we are having a good debate! This is how people collaborate to become smarter, wiser, more knowledgeable and more open-minded. You have to be open about hearing the perspectives and thoughts of others! Maybe there are some parts of what I said you agree with, maybe there are some you don't, you have the freedom to pick and choose which parts make sense to you and what to accept, but either way you can't tell me this hasn't been an insightful conversation, right? 😮

 

It is difficult to say how well humanity would unite in the face of extra-terrestrial threats. Sure, your favorite Sci-Fi movies make it seem pretty simple and glorious, but in these Hollywood-based films the world tends to universally and unconditionally follow the leadership of the United States (If a movie even depicts anyone other than Americans at all), which from the perspective of an American probably does seem like the perfect concept. =P

Obviously in the real world it's a bit more complicated. That said there is no reason to believe humanity couldn't act in a united and collaborative way, there are certainly plenty of examples in which the United Nations does just that. And movies aside, I'm sure that's more what you had in mind anyway.

 

Unfortunately we can't form an adversity with something that isn't there. Possibility alone isn't enough to unite people, it has to become something real first. That's not likely to ever be aliens, and as for global catastrophes well.. you can see how well that's uniting us already with global warming. The asteroid impact is the only realistic form of outer-planetary threat we have a chance of being faced with, but this probably won't actually unite people. Most developed nations can and have already put together their own plans for dealing with the threat of an oncoming asteroid, and can act upon their solutions independent of other countries. At most it would be a collaborative project of the UN, and as long as we catch an incoming asteroid early enough we're more than capable of dealing with it. (Unless it's really really big, that would be bad) Once the asteroid is dealt with, it's back to business as usual on Earth.

 

 

16 minutes ago, Purplez(OD) said:

Two parter today.  Do you believe people are losing the art of conversation because of a reliance on social media?  And how much does language affect our thinking?

 

I like to think I'm preserving the art of conversation just fine right here! 😄

I don't think social media is causing people to lose the art of conversation, people who are strong conversationalists still have their avenues to converse in. What social media is doing is providing an overwhelming outlet for the many people who are not strong conversationalists. These people were always there, we just didn't have to read what they said everywhere we went before.

 

Does language affect our thinking? As in does someone's native language influence the way they think? Probably not. But the culture they grew up in, in which that language is derived from, most certainly would.

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4 hours ago, Terra said:

Now don't go giving me the whole "stop picking on us!" line, we are having a good debate!

You know I love debates as much as, if not more than the next person, and if we had opposing viewpoints I would certainly stand up for my beliefs. But we (were) both arguing the same point, that out of conflict / free market, we come out with new technologies and intentions. Where we seem to be diverging from each other, from what I gather at least, is whether or not the examples I've listed would be "enough" of a cause to unite the species to the point of progressing and succeeding / surviving the conflict? However, I think we've successfully derailed this topic enough, so I'd rather split this off into its own discussion before continuing the debate with you 😉 .

 

4 hours ago, Purplez(OD) said:

Two parter today.  Do you believe people are losing the art of conversation because of a reliance on social media?  And how much does language affect our thinking?

Yes, I feel that because of the sudden explosion of social media, people have increased their "shorthand" use, dropping letters of words, almost to the point of being unable to recognize what word the person is meaning, and now with the advent of Emoji's, we've circled back to the time (roughly more than 5000 years ago) when written language is being reduced (or expanded, depending on how you see it) to pictures, hence the saying, "a picture is worth a thousand words". Think about shakespeare and the like. Back then, you were required to take your time and carefully write down what you wanted to say, and if you made a mistake in writing one letter, there was no "backspace" key, so you had to start from the beginning of the page all over again! With modern technology, typing / texting has even been computerized to the point where we have features like "autocorrect", so the modern person isn't even required to know how to spell. We don't speak the way we did 100 years ago, and I believe technology is a major contributing factor of it. Now fast forward to technology of today, where we have snapchat, instagram, facebook, twitter, etc. People are more concerned about being first to post an update, first to respond to someone else, first to have their voice "heard", that they are less concerned about correct grammar or spelling out words so they abbreviate them. Thus, the decline in language, it's effect on our thinking, and my answer to the 2nd part of your question... How many times have you, or heard someone else say "OMG" instead of "Oh My Gosh", out loud, and in person? or say "LOLZ" instead of making the actual effort to actually Laugh out loud because of laziness, or they are too embarrassed to let someone else hear them laugh for fear of ridicule? There is no question in my mind, that technology has made human beings not only lazy, but has even become a "shelter", promoting and encouraging our own fears, and has (in my opinion / IMO) affected our language, culture, and very thinking. Luckily, there are still a few of us around, that remember a time before all of this, that learned how to write in cursive during grade-school, spent time studying how to spell correctly (either by choice, schooling, or had parents that made them actually read and be tested on a dictionary as a punishment for something they did), etc., but it has become painfully obvious that those days are behind us.

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What? We're not derailing the topic, my hmmmms just go on a little longer than other peoples hmmmmms. =p

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Body language and inflection are a big part of communication - I believe that many are misconstrued, misunderstood and or seen as socially awkward because of social media, E-Mails and other forms of digital communication.

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On 10/11/2018 at 2:13 PM, MineNotYour(OD) said:

Body language and inflection are a big part of communication - I believe that many are misconstrued, misunderstood and or seen as socially awkward because of social media, E-Mails and other forms of digital communication.

I agree with that Brian. Body language adds so much to a conversation into being able to understand and not misunderstand what somebody is trying to convey. Too often people will write something either here on the forums or in a p.m. that they think is conveying their intent but it actually can it be misconstrued.

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4 minutes ago, Purplez(OD) said:

they think is conveying their intent but it actually can it be misconstrued.

Story of my life.

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I hope everybody is enjoying these conversations as much as I am.  You get such insights reading the answers that people provide, so I thank all of you who are responding.

 

What two questions would you ask to get the most information about who a person truly is?

 

 

 

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